The slick creation of the 'US citizen' via the 13th Amendment clouds the issue.  I think in actuality, state citizenship has never been revoked, just as the sovereignty of each state hasn't been revoked, just ignored (see the War Between the States).  Statism has become the de facto norm as a result.  But, yes, there are no 'common law' writs that grant the US government to manage immigration (and a whole host of other things they do like issue birth certificates from the US Treasury, etc.).

True, Mike!  I wonder when a state like California is going to assert their sovereignty to allow 'illegal' immigrants to have state citizenship as they are entitled.

Good point, Mike.  It would be better if that power was not assumed...

I suppose I would like to see the source of Roberts' assertion that "the admission and exclusion of foreign nationals is a 'fundamental sovereign attribute exercised by the Government’s political departments largely immune from judicial control.'"  I am inclined to agree, nevertheless.  If the Executive is responsible for defending the national borders, I would think that the Executive would have some power to determine who can cross those borders and their status once in the country.  If state citizenship were still recognized, they could legislate their own rules for emigrating into their state.

Mike, when the US Constitution and the state constitutions were ratified, people were considered citizens of their own (sovereign) state.  So, in that context, you are correct.  But even George Washington acknowledged that only people who were willing to adopt the 'American way' should be allowed to emigrate and so that the customs of a people not accustomed to freedom and the responsibility that comes with it do not outnumber the patriots who fought hard for their freedom from state supremacy.

Contrary to popular belief, there is more than enough charity to go around — but there will never be enough for all to live at the expense of the charitable forever. 

Let us not forget that the welfare programs funded now are subsidized by loading future generations with debt.  And as long as we use debt-bearing script as our money supply, this debt will continue to grow exponentially until the nation is completely bankrupted — which, by the way, is the goal, thus giving the robber barons everything. 

This is what happens when you don't get an education in economics.  Again, this is by design because the common man trusts his representatives to protect them from such tyranny.  Unfortunately, our representatives are in on the grift.

Excise taxes are the only lawful taxes authorized by the national and state constitutions.  Taxes on income were originally based on defining income as returns on investments and were topped at 1% over $500,000 (in 1934 dollars!).  If you look at how the IRS justifies taxing our labors, you would be surprised to learn that our labors are categorized into various excise tax codes because they have never been authorized to tax the labors of the people — even King George didn't do that!

A classic!

Well said!  I wonder how much Sigmund Freud understood it...

Indeed, this is a double-edged sword. We should not fear bad ideas as long as we have the opportunity to counter them with facts.

For the most part, this is the way humanity advances.

That's not to say the costs of freedom are cheap — far from it!  But it appears that the costs of oppression are ever recurring and increasing with interest, while the costs of freedom may be high at first, but the benefits far outweigh the maintenance costs. 😉

How about an informed people that are brought up knowing their rights and the foundations upon which America was founded?  That would promote true patriotism.  I obviously got a different education than most... and it was mostly due to my own desire to understand how things REALLY work.

Yes, actions speak louder than words.  Reagan often said the right thing, but the State carried right along nevertheless...

Indeed, that's all We the People need do — stop any minor encroachments to our liberty immediately.  Once the dam breaks, it's too late to stop the flood.

In the context of forcing one's will upon another, the 'remedy' will be temporal.  Better to inspire others, acquire agreement, and act in good faith — that's a 'force' to be reckoned with.

Sort of like 'my values' or 'my truth'...  The truth is the truth!  I dislike today's current jargon masking hypocrisy, justifying evil, promoting lawlessness (not statutory but natural law).  The 'narrative' is just that, a narrative — it is not real.

Good point!  Therefore we are all responsible for the usurpations of power in our governments.  We benefit when our governments cause coup d'etats in other nations.  Every oppression our governments impose, we are responsible to stop.  Every lie we allow to go unopposed, funnels more money and power to the illegitimate.  As we sow, so shall we reap!

That's called putting your money where your mouth is!  Love it!

I agree with Mike.  As Dylan sings, "You can serve the devil or you can serve the Lord, but you're gonna have to serve somebody." ;-)

Speaking as one who could never understand the desire to control people, I have faced this social pressure from my youth onwards.  I have mostly wanted to be left alone to seek to understand the world organically, not to be herded like cattle into programmed settings I am compelled to follow.  Those that have never tried, don't know the hidden hand.  Those that have are told to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.  Indeed, the truth shall make one free.

Mike makes a good point.

I suppose JFK meant well, but he was deceived and paid the price.  The Deep State has been running things ever since.  I only wish the American people were as willing to take a stand "to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

Indeed!  The real enemy is not an over-reaching government, but a citizenry that does not value freedom in their hearts.  Without a citizenry that loves freedom, their representatives will further their dependency until they are nothing more than the subjects of the crown from which the American Revolution liberated them.  That's another reason to stop trying to be more like Britain and Europe — they do not know freedom and have little to no respect for it.

Boy, how times have changed — we've come along way, baby.

Now, the "sons" of former slave owners (and even those that weren't) demand special treatment and dispensations — and are getting them, and still aren't satisfied. 

Just goes to show, give them an inch and they'll take a mile.  The liberals are liberal no more, they are fascist by any truthful definition.